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convicTT
June 11th, 2004, 11:20 AM
Had a wander around Audi Centre Sydney showroom whilst waiting for a bit of work on the TT. Stuck my bum in a couple of new A3's and like clockwork, the salesman approached. Asked him what the price range was for the new A3's. He replied, "40 to 50 thousand". Fair enough, maybe.

Asked him about the 3.2 DSG model. "Oh", he said, "that won't be out until October and it will be over 80 thousand" What do you say to that?

He also mentioned on the QT, that the TT 3.2 DSG will most likely make an appearance at the same time. "95 to 100 thousand" Apparently the 3.2 sounds awesome. It would want to because the performance figures don't seem dramatically different to the current quattro model. Give me a clutch, a turbo and some sneaky software any day.

Boomtownmouse
June 12th, 2004, 12:07 AM
new s4s retail in the US for 48k. i just dont understand how come cars are so freaking expensive here.

5VTurbo
June 12th, 2004, 01:27 AM
Had a wander around Audi Centre Sydney showroom whilst waiting for a bit of work on the TT. Stuck my bum in a couple of new A3's and like clockwork, the salesman approached. Asked him what the price range was for the new A3's. He replied, "40 to 50 thousand". Fair enough, maybe.

Asked him about the 3.2 DSG model. "Oh", he said, "that won't be out until October and it will be over 80 thousand" What do you say to that?

$83,454 to be exact

bitemebw
June 13th, 2004, 05:33 AM
Top Gear reviewed the new TT and was dissapointed with the results - it just isn't "sport" orientated. I've seen other reviews that like it a lot but I don't think Top Gear is particularly biased against audi - they loved the s4 and the rs6.

The main problems was it handling - springs to soft and understeer.

We'll see later this year I guess.

Cheers,
BM

Turbomike61
June 13th, 2004, 07:29 AM
I take it you're talking about the DSG V6.

From the credible reports I've seen, it's a dud.

AudiFan
June 25th, 2004, 02:59 PM
Reported in the Australian and Age the past couple of days is that Audi oz are locked in a battle with Audi Germany over the pricing of the A3. Oz are pushing for similar pricing as the outgoing models. Germany say the production cost are higher but oz are basing their case on the fact the market here is much more competive and the fact the series 1 beamer will start sub 40K. Oz are confident price will be lowered and anyone who has already purchased will get a refund. BTW saw a couple in the showroom today and they look better than in the photos...

jamesa
June 26th, 2004, 01:41 AM
new s4s retail in the US for 48k. i just dont understand how come cars are so freaking expensive here.

our gutless federal politicians who think it's a good idea to tax people for buying a safe and modern car.

OTOH, if you want to buy a piece of junk 4wd that kills everyone it runs into, tips more easily, destroys the roads faster due to its weight and uses god knows how much more petrol (when normally it's only 1 person driving anyway) then guess what? They'll eliminate the import duty for you! :roll:

our governments (not pointing fingers at either party… not wanting a political debate) really F&*% me off some times.

FWIW, I hope Audi do drop the A3 price. The 3.2Q DSG for 80K? That's ridiculous.

-- james

Ernie
June 26th, 2004, 07:30 AM
80 k...

so....how much was one of those renult clio sport thingos......the v6 one?

makes an r32 look cheap.

ENJ01Y
June 26th, 2004, 08:56 AM
...don't start me with politicians mate. I've yet to pick myself up off the floor, since they've decided to hit property investors with new taxes retrospectively!!

STOP MOVING THE FU$K11N GOAL POSTS!!!!! :evil:

Nikos

jamesa
June 26th, 2004, 04:30 PM
80 k...

so....how much was one of those renult clio sport thingos......the v6 one?

makes an r32 look cheap.

heh, I wish they did sell the v6 one over here, but unfortunately they don't... if you can import one from the UK that you can prove you've held for over a year (though you need to be the one that owned and used it) then they wave the import duties I think.

And I hear you Nikos...

-- james

Boomtownmouse
June 26th, 2004, 06:27 PM
that would fit SEVs i think (or whatever its called)

elisiX
June 27th, 2004, 07:31 PM
Went into the dealership again today to check over the new A3 again.

Audi as of 2 days ago dropped the pricing on the A3. No word on the 3.2 being reduced but the 1.6-2.0 FSI and TDI are both reduced. Any pre orders will be adjusted and early picked up A3's refunded the difference.

Basically a 2.0 FSI in standard form with no options is $52k driveaway. This is down from $56k driveaway 3 days ago.

Personally, im looking at a 2.0 TDI DSG with Leather, Xenon, Bose, Sunroof, PDC, Metallic on the road for about $62ish.
Cant decide wheather to go the new A3 or get the 3.2 Alfa 147 GTA. (currently have a 147).

And im also not too sure about the sound a diesel engine produces.

$60k for an A3 with same power as my current 147 or $60k on a 3.2L animal GTA.

XXX-1.8T
June 27th, 2004, 11:16 PM
reckon the 2.0T will be around the $70K bracket :evil:

ultima_thule
June 29th, 2004, 11:50 AM
$75,300 to be exact :D

Audi A3 pricing

Audi A3 1.6 Attraction 5-speed manual $34,900
Audi A3 1.6 Attraction 6-speed tiptronic $37,400
Audi A3 2.0 FSI Attraction 6-speed manual $39,000
Audi A3 2.0 FSI Attraction 6-speed tiptronic $41,500
Audi A3 2.0 FSI Ambition 6-speed manual $40,400
Audi A3 2.0 FSI Ambition 6-speed tiptronic $42,900
Audi A3 2.0 TDI Ambition 6-speed DSG $47,800
Audi A3 3.2 quattro Ambition 6-speed DSG $75,300

http://www.autoweb.com.au/cms/A_101871/newsarticle.html

just looking at the range I suspect that the 2.0 fsiT will not come here straight away and the TDI will be the hero turbo car.
In the uk they are getting very tidy numbers from the 2.0TDI

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ultima_thule
June 29th, 2004, 12:03 PM
whoops doubled up

Sloth
June 29th, 2004, 02:19 PM
BTW saw a couple in the showroom today and they look better than in the photos...

Saw some mk5 Golf's in the flesh last week and they look worse than in the photos !!!! :beat:

elisiX
June 29th, 2004, 02:27 PM
To be even more exact.. this is what I had priced up today.

I also drove both cars. DSG is great, but its so similar to the standard Tiptronic they use anyway. The TDI with DSG is not worth the extra $5k.

Audi A3 2.0 FSI Ambition 6-speed tiptronic $42,900
+
Multitronic Steering Wheel w/ Tiptronic $760
10 Speaker Bose Sound System $1900
Bi-Xenon Headlights $1900
Sports Seats w/ Leather Interior $3200
Front Armrest $300
Electric Sunroof $1800
Cruise Control $750
Metallic Paint $1300
+
Stealer Charges $2945
=
$57,755
-
Audi Corporate Discount $1503
=
$56,252
+
Stamp Duty $1915
CTP $381
Registration $418
=
$58,966 on the road, driveaway.

The car drives very nicely and the tiptronic (not DSG) is very smooth. Im so used to my Alfa however so the whole package feels very soft, relaxed and quiet. lol. They tell me thats what you call quality and refinement.

Im still confused as to go with this, or spend another $10k and get a 147 GTA.

Also, the 2.0TFSI will not be available across the A3 range. It is exclusive to the Sportback and wont be out till late next year.

I was told the A3 pricing was 'reviewed' NOT because of any other car in the market, but simply the pricing was too close to A4 and they were pricing themselves out.
bah

jamesa
June 29th, 2004, 05:37 PM
To be even more exact.. this is what I had priced up today.

I also drove both cars. DSG is great, but its so similar to the standard Tiptronic they use anyway. The TDI with DSG is not worth the extra $5k.

Audi A3 2.0 FSI Ambition 6-speed tiptronic $42,900
+
Multitronic Steering Wheel w/ Tiptronic $760
10 Speaker Bose Sound System $1900
Bi-Xenon Headlights $1900
Sports Seats w/ Leather Interior $3200
Front Armrest $300
Electric Sunroof $1800
Cruise Control $750
Metallic Paint $1300
+
Stealer Charges $2945
=
$57,755
-
Audi Corporate Discount $1503
=
$56,252
+
Stamp Duty $1915
CTP $381
Registration $418
=
$58,966 on the road, driveaway.

The car drives very nicely and the tiptronic (not DSG) is very smooth. Im so used to my Alfa however so the whole package feels very soft, relaxed and quiet. lol. They tell me thats what you call quality and refinement.

Im still confused as to go with this, or spend another $10k and get a 147 GTA.

Also, the 2.0TFSI will not be available across the A3 range. It is exclusive to the Sportback and wont be out till late next year.

I was told the A3 pricing was 'reviewed' NOT because of any other car in the market, but simply the pricing was too close to A4 and they were pricing themselves out.
bah

At those $$$ I'd be looking at a A4 S-Line!

-- james

5VTurbo
June 29th, 2004, 10:18 PM
"Im still confused as to go with this, or spend another $10k and get a 147 GTA."

a 147 GTA with those options came to $74k + ORC. I checked it out last week.

elisiX
July 1st, 2004, 11:05 AM
An A4 S-Line will cost closer to $75K+orc. The 147 GTA Selespeed is closer to $70k driveaway though.

I decided that I dont want to spend over $65k and I definatley want a car with more power then my 147. An Audi in this price range wont do it, and I dont want more of the same so the Alfa is not an option anymore.

I test drove an RX-8 and a Monaro on the weekend and im leaning toward the RX-8. I dont like the 350Z so I didnt bother with it. The problem I have now is that I want/need an auto because of all the city driving I do. And the auto in the RX-8 is 30% slower then the manual RX-8. The Monaro is better as an auto then it is as a manual and that suits me fine. Also, there is no power difference between the two.

The Monaro is a dream to drive, so easy and smooth. Power delivery is immediate and flawless. The RX-8 is easy to drive also, very nimble however the auto is sluggish on takeoff. Its just as quick as a manual IMO once you moving but slow initially.

The RX-8 also represents better value for money and has some great features that the Monaro doesnt have. Its just that bloody auto tranny.

Auto RX-8 is 140odd KW and the manual RX-8 is 170odd. Big difference.

Bit of a dilemma.

Kris
July 1st, 2004, 11:14 AM
You are considering a Commodore? What happened to you boy...

elisiX
July 1st, 2004, 11:20 AM
LOL..

I guess I could get a 2004 2nd hand S3 like urs.. :P

(if there are any)

A4PLAY
July 1st, 2004, 11:23 AM
If it was me i'd go the GTA! Sporty and meets ur needs! the generation 2 paddle shift is ment to be really good. (so I have been told by a friend who works for Alfa.) Monaro looks good but is a commo and drinks like there is no tomorrow. RX8 has no torque despite 170kw in manual, something like 218Nm.

ALFA 147 GTA is the way out of the 3

Kris
July 1st, 2004, 11:27 AM
Dude, go the used S3. I think you'll be alot happier with it than a RX8 from speaking to you over the years..

Alfa, you dont want another one after a standard 147 do you ? Wouldn't you want something thats different, a car you've never owned before? The 147 GTA in the magazines don't really rate them very well...

What about a E36 M3? or Audi TT? or hmm..

A4PLAY
July 1st, 2004, 11:54 AM
Kris S3 would of been my first choice too but he is after an auto.

Turbomike61
July 1st, 2004, 01:25 PM
For that money you can start looking at s/h S4's. There have been some good deals on them lately. Don't know how many auto's there are though.

Kris
July 1st, 2004, 01:43 PM
AUTO?? You'll soon get sick of that :P

Turbomike61
July 1st, 2004, 01:46 PM
At least in the S4 it will be a trippy!

jamesa
July 1st, 2004, 06:28 PM
edit: can't get it in auto either... nevermind

-- james

Sloth
July 1st, 2004, 09:10 PM
edit: can't get it in auto either... nevermind

-- james

I am going to get beaten around the head for this comment but I drove my brother in laws brand new Saab Aero 9-3 (he traded a 1998 PAssat 1.8T TIPTRONIC for it) and the best feature was the gearbox and the buttons on the stearing wheel for the tiptronic - and mind you the changes were quite fast and smooth too ! Had quite a bit of poke too !

ENJ01Y
July 2nd, 2004, 07:50 AM
I've mentioned before I think the new Saab Aero 9-3 is a great looking car. Unfortunately I didn't even take one for a test drive before purchasing my B6 A4.

Nikos

Carlos
July 2nd, 2004, 12:14 PM
$85-86k Including onroads and dealer delivery etc

I wonder how many they'll sell :roll:

Sloth
July 2nd, 2004, 12:36 PM
$85-86k Including onroads and dealer delivery etc

I wonder how many they'll sell :roll:

No dude - there are 10 - 15k discounts on these things.
See Rick Damelian for the best deal !!

sTTevo
July 2nd, 2004, 02:05 PM
I've mentioned before I think the new Saab Aero 9-3 is a great looking car. Unfortunately I didn't even take one for a test drive before purchasing my B6 A4.

Nikos

Don't worry there's nothing unfortunate about that... Gutless and feels cheap (although it does look very classy - it just has a cheap feeling) :thumbs_dn:

http://www.saab.com.au/main/image/photo_gallery/2004/95s_int_1.jpg

Sloth
July 2nd, 2004, 02:13 PM
[quote=ENJ01Y]

http://www.saab.com.au/main/image/photo_gallery/2004/95s_int_1.jpg

The new 9-3 looks nothing like that PIC - the new 9-3 interior is one of the nicest interiors I have seen in a sub 80k car ! total opposite to the old 9-5 and old 9-3 interior ! :)

sTTevo
July 2nd, 2004, 04:08 PM
Gotcha... so how new is this? Cause we test drove one 2 months ago. I just snipped that piccy from the Saab website. Is there a new one that's come out since?

A3T
July 2nd, 2004, 05:15 PM
Completely agree with sloth the aero 9-3 has an excellent interior for the money, put it this way my g/f's dad is considering one over his mercedes

sTTevo that pic is of a saab 9-5, which had the same interior layout since 1998!

the car sloth is talking about is a 9-3 which came out late last year

sTTevo
July 2nd, 2004, 05:21 PM
Ok cool.. Well all I remember was thinking that the A4 seemed so much nicer inside than the Saab. It just felt cheap :?

A4PLAY
July 5th, 2004, 10:20 AM
New A3 prices were in the paper this sunday.

From memery the top of the line A3 was about $73000 and the 1.6 A3 (released next year) was $36 000.

Spoke to Paul from Muller and Muller and he said he was pretty sure the 2.0T petrol A3 quattro was going to be released!

jamesa
July 6th, 2004, 03:12 AM
OK, I think I might have an answer to this dilemna. I saw a Liberty GT out the other night - in silver, with these stunning 5 spoke Roh wheels (not chrome, not too big... just looked up the website, they're the Axcess model) and it's got to be one of the best looking Japanese cars I've seen in a long time!

I'd go for a drive... it's auto, and it's in your price bracket...

-- james

Carlos
July 6th, 2004, 02:29 PM
If it was me i'd go the GTA! Sporty and meets ur needs! the generation 2 paddle shift is ment to be really good. (so I have been told by a friend who works for Alfa.) Monaro looks good but is a commo and drinks like there is no tomorrow. RX8 has no torque despite 170kw in manual, something like 218Nm.

ALFA 147 GTA is the way out of the 3

A friend of mine has one of these.

A word of advise, be prepared to form a close relationship with the dealer/service centre from which you bought it.

Beautiful cars, but you might have a few problems.

My friends has had gearbox/suspension/brake problems with only 10,000k's on the clock

AND all 147's and 156's just recently got recalled for a faulty power steering pump

New models wont have this problem, but beware if buying 2nd hand


On another note regarding the 2.0T A3, it will be released in january 2005 according to Bill Buckle