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    Apologies for not adding the bit about the clutch being released I appreciate that changes things. My bad.

    Yes, the sound comes when the lever is moved while the clutch is in and before I release it again. I am going to try a few different scenarios tonight and report back to see if it only does it in certain conditions.

    Really appreciate the help I am still learning about the car and the mechanics of it in general so appreciate the patience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by demon8991 View Post
    Apologies for not adding the bit about the clutch being released I appreciate that changes things. My bad.

    Yes, the sound comes when the lever is moved while the clutch is in and before I release it again. I am going to try a few different scenarios tonight and report back to see if it only does it in certain conditions.

    Really appreciate the help I am still learning about the car and the mechanics of it in general so appreciate the patience.
    What your now describing could be related to the shifter linkage as mentioned. It was a common mod (but i never did it) to put in a JHM short shift linkage kit. https://jhmotorsports.com/products/s...d-rs4-all.html If your feeling brave, you can have a go at lifting the gearstick trim and see if it looks the same as the JHM unit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zeruGO5EX8

    They did require adjustment to get them to work properly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOm9gQKFX8M that could be the cause of the sound.

    Does it make the same noise when the car is turned off and you go through the gears as before or does it only happen when car is running and stationary and/or when car is running and moving?

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    Ok so its definitely the most noticeable from 2nd to 3rd and I have only managed to get it to happen between 3-4k. 1st can sometimes be a bit tricky to shift to and there is also occasionally a noise into 2nd from 1st.

    - If i double clutch up-shift it doesn't seem to make a noise.
    - If the car is off it doesn't make a noise

    I spoke to a mechanic mate and he wanted to know the following:

    "Are there linkages from the gear stick to the gear box like a FWD or does the stick go straight into the gearbox like a traditional RWD" (he assumes the latter)

    Is it worth me doing a gearbox and diff oil change?
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    Quote Originally Posted by demon8991 View Post
    Ok so its definitely the most noticeable from 2nd to 3rd and I have only managed to get it to happen between 3-4k. 1st can sometimes be a bit tricky to shift to and there is also occasionally a noise into 2nd from 1st.

    - If i double clutch up-shift it doesn't seem to make a noise.
    - If the car is off it doesn't make a noise

    I spoke to a mechanic mate and he wanted to know the following:

    "Are there linkages from the gear stick to the gear box like a FWD or does the stick go straight into the gearbox like a traditional RWD" (he assumes the latter)

    Is it worth me doing a gearbox and diff oil change?
    We all start from somewhere in our quest for Audi knowledge but respectfully I would suggest that Dr Google would help you here in learning just a little about your car and this issue. Your mechanic friend is clearly not immersed in Audi and no problem as there are many and varied cars out there but you need someone who knows these well unless you want to go on a Magical Mystery Tour, First Class. A gearbox and diff oil change is always worth putting on the list but it isn't a cure all and to use the right oil (a must do) it's hundreds of $. I'd focus on this issue and try and narrow it down. A night spent reading up on all the Euro and US Audi Forums on this topic is time well spent. You may well even stumble on the answer.

    A few questions and clarifications:
    The most common association with a double clutch shift is syncros. i.e used when you don't have syncros (in days gone by) or they are stuffed. Gear linkage adjustment can also be critical on these. If shifting into first is tricky, the linkage adjustment may need reviewing.
    When the engine is off, were the gear changes made with the clutch in or out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by demon8991 View Post
    Ok so its definitely the most noticeable from 2nd to 3rd and I have only managed to get it to happen between 3-4k. 1st can sometimes be a bit tricky to shift to and there is also occasionally a noise into 2nd from 1st.

    - If i double clutch up-shift it doesn't seem to make a noise.
    - If the car is off it doesn't make a noise

    I spoke to a mechanic mate and he wanted to know the following:

    "Are there linkages from the gear stick to the gear box like a FWD or does the stick go straight into the gearbox like a traditional RWD" (he assumes the latter)

    Is it worth me doing a gearbox and diff oil change?
    It is a linkage, like a front wheel drive. Look at the JHM pictures.

    2nd to 3rd Syncro's are a known problem. Check your service history and if the gearbox oil hasn't been changed. I would start by changing the gearbox/diff oil.

    Take it to Prestige and Performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IchBautAuto View Post
    We all start from somewhere in our quest for Audi knowledge but respectfully I would suggest that Dr Google would help you here in learning just a little about your car and this issue. Your mechanic friend is clearly not immersed in Audi and no problem as there are many and varied cars out there but you need someone who knows these well unless you want to go on a Magical Mystery Tour, First Class. A gearbox and diff oil change is always worth putting on the list but it isn't a cure all and to use the right oil (a must do) it's hundreds of $. I'd focus on this issue and try and narrow it down. A night spent reading up on all the Euro and US Audi Forums on this topic is time well spent. You may well even stumble on the answer.

    A few questions and clarifications:
    The most common association with a double clutch shift is syncros. i.e used when you don't have syncros (in days gone by) or they are stuffed. Gear linkage adjustment can also be critical on these. If shifting into first is tricky, the linkage adjustment may need reviewing.
    When the engine is off, were the gear changes made with the clutch in or out?
    Thanks for your help greatly appreciated however it is fair to say forums are a great place to share information and ask questions.

    Clutch in or clutch out make no difference when the car is off they more or less sounds the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by mike View Post
    It is a linkage, like a front wheel drive. Look at the JHM pictures.

    2nd to 3rd Syncro's are a known problem. Check your service history and if the gearbox oil hasn't been changed. I would start by changing the gearbox/diff oil.

    Take it to Prestige and Performance.
    I did a check and couldn't see any history of the gearbox oil and I rang the last place to service and they said they didn't do it in the last 18 months.

    With regards to oil and treatment I was looking at the following would I be right in using these two products?

    https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/...250g/2129.html

    https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/...4Y9fl7kw%3D%3D

    Prestige and Performance look great however do you know anything a little closer as I am at the southern end of the Gold Coast.
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    Back when I had a B7 RS4 I got the gearbox and diff oils replaced with Red Line products (think it was MT90 for the gearbox and a 75w90 for the diff (would need to confirm though)) at around the 45 - 50k km mark.

    I did it from a preventative maintenance perspective but it definitely improved the shifting feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demon8991 View Post
    Thanks for your help greatly appreciated however it is fair to say forums are a great place to share information and ask questions.

    Clutch in or clutch out make no difference when the car is off they more or less sounds the same.



    I did a check and couldn't see any history of the gearbox oil and I rang the last place to service and they said they didn't do it in the last 18 months.

    With regards to oil and treatment I was looking at the following would I be right in using these two products?

    https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/...250g/2129.html

    https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/...4Y9fl7kw%3D%3D

    Prestige and Performance look great however do you know anything a little closer as I am at the southern end of the Gold Coast.
    Motul 300LS 75W90 GL5 for diff, and the 300 75W90 GL4/GL5 for gearbox is a good bet. There is an Audi OE part No: G052911A SAE 75 W 90 for the gearbox and
    Audi OE part No: G052145A1 for the diff. I think the VW spec is VW G052 and any oil for the gearbox that you use should have that in the spec list on the container. Been a long list of guys trying cheaper alternatives and none seem to cut it at all, but your choice of course.
    B5 RS4 : Lightly modified -- C5 2.7 allroad -- B5 A4 1.8 quattro 132 Kw -- UNIMOG 404 TLF8

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    with an uncommon car like these I would suggest taking it to the regional expert as suggested. you might find someone a little closer but they are unlikely to know this model properly and as said above waste a lot of time and money in the wrong places. there is a train stop v close to P&P so its easy to drop off and get home.
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    NOW b7 RS4 sedan

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    Yeah fair call.

    I was thinking of doing the gearbox oil change myself before taking it in as I cannot see one being done so it couldn't hurt to do that.
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