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Another C5 RS6 on the block.

Briefly, after buying a car in the top 5-10%, there was still work to do. 16 years old so this is reality. Fair to say the PO was fastidious but equally they sometimes look right over some issues that jump out at a new person. The interior is as new, exterior very good with the normal paint marks from a non show car. Wheels reasonable but had been chipped in places. Certainly not the kerbing you see but done and touched up badly. I'd say that the body work met the description on the day so no complaints.

Mechanically, the usual. The older RS cars seem to attract dodgy mechanics. Stuff you won't find until you start stripping stuff down so not seen during an inspection. You can buy a bog standard Audi and it might be absolutely complete, not a bracket or part missing anywhere. Same age RS and there will be stuff. Strangely, money didn't generally seem to be an issue, quality parts used etc but some consumable parts were left to the death rattle, or maybe I'm fussy.

So to date, the following were needed to get through rego or to provide peace of mind at the start. A not insignificant sum to find just to get mobile.

Bilstein Dampers
Front bump stops
front upper control arms
Tyres Michelin PS4s
Air Box grommets x 4
Battery

Philips DRL (fog lights removed to fit Wagners)

Air Filters (replace BMC with paper)

Bosch MAFs

Apikol MAF seals
Cabin filter
Dashcam adhesive pads,12 V sockets (refitting the dash cam)

Replace Diverter valves


These were just non essential to round off the car.


Shevron Dash Mat (gauge mounting accessory to keep the car standard without damage)

P3 Gauge
Nylon boost hose & fittings

SwissVax cleaner

GPS unit
h/light protectors
A few parts from UK

Spark Plugs

Already, it's obvious that the lower control arms will need replacing shortly. Decided to wait a few months and lessen the sticker shock. Most of the running gear has about half the life of my RS4, I'd say. The excess weight over the nose destroys the front suspension well inside 100,000 KM. Brakes etc as well. That and access are the two long term issues that drive up costs. Apparently the car has had a second auto transmission fitted some years ago so that's the last of the traditional issues taken care of in the short term at least.

Regrets, none, it's a great car. Basically, as people are still interested in them, the info here might help anyone looking at an example. I've seen some real dogs and can't imagine what it would cost to get them back on the boil. I could have driven this (with new tyres) for ages before it absolutely needed to have some stuff fixed. Then again, with the sort of car that might encourage brisk driving, it would not have been a controllable missile.

The longer you own one, the more you learn. This will probably go on for ages so almost impossible to list all the little bits that arise.



Just a view but need to treat a second hand purchase on a Euro like a project, always need to build in a realistic contingency over the purchase price. Build in 5k irrespective of purchase price and that sorts out the first round little annoyances in the back of your mind after the honey moon period ends each time you insert the key or detail the car.
 
Just a view but need to treat a second hand purchase on a Euro like a project, always need to build in a realistic contingency over the purchase price. Build in 5k irrespective of purchase price and that sorts out the first round little annoyances in the back of your mind after the honey moon period ends each time you insert the key or detail the car.

Agree, that's reality. Only $5K would have been a gift. I could have just driven this out on the road and it would have passed rego inspection except by an Audi specialist who knew 15-20 year old cars of this type. It would have been a real issue for others though as mechanically it had all the horses plus, whereas the suspension itself was knackered. Better to do this before it even starts it's life on the road. Once you start driving it, it becomes less urgent to finish all the jobs. That doesn't include all the other stuff. I'd upgraded the allroad with a whole pile of bits for traveling and removed all those before sale to put in the RS6. You get used to certain things being available.

Only point I really had was to put up my experience specifically for those who were eyeing off a similar purchase. Daydreaming really to think that you're entitled to a near new 16 year old car at 10% of it's original purchase price with all the potential faults resolved just yesterday with brand new parts. Factor in the price of model specific parts and it's a nightmare for those not expecting it.
 
Agree, that's reality. Only $5K would have been a gift. I could have just driven this out on the road and it would have passed rego inspection except by an Audi specialist who knew 15-20 year old cars of this type. It would have been a real issue for others though as mechanically it had all the horses plus, whereas the suspension itself was knackered. Better to do this before it even starts it's life on the road. Once you start driving it, it becomes less urgent to finish all the jobs. That doesn't include all the other stuff. I'd upgraded the allroad with a whole pile of bits for traveling and removed all those before sale to put in the RS6. You get used to certain things being available.

Only point I really had was to put up my experience specifically for those who were eyeing off a similar purchase. Daydreaming really to think that you're entitled to a near new 16 year old car at 10% of it's original purchase price with all the potential faults resolved just yesterday with brand new parts. Factor in the price of model specific parts and it's a nightmare for those not expecting it.

My point is even with an enthusiasts car or what appears to be a bargain that's peachy, a lot of rubber bits get overlooked. and buyers dont factor in a contingency costs ( you need o allow for known unknowns that a ppi going to find E.g. how many ads say all factory aged suspension parts, engine mounts tranny mounts and wearing rubber parts recently replaced in last major service with genuine factory parts.
 
My point is even with an enthusiasts car or what appears to be a bargain that's peachy, a lot of rubber bits get overlooked. and buyers dont factor in a contingency costs ( you need o allow for known unknowns that a ppi going to find E.g. how many ads say all factory aged suspension parts, engine mounts tranny mounts and wearing rubber parts recently replaced in last major service with genuine factory parts.

Concur, I'm only really familiar with AUDI construction in cars of this age and the use of "rubber" components is prolific. In some versions the "rubber" parts have a good life and in others, it can be quite curtailed by weight and design. Bottom line is, as you well know, the replacement bits are expensive. I've toyed a bit thinking about Poly replacements for some bushes but the lifespan is a bit of the unknown. There's no saving if the labour cost or effort to replace more frequently is taken into account.

Reality again, there is a market price range for all the attractive vehicles and no one is going to do a wholesale bush replacement at a substantial cost to themselves if they can pass it on to the next owner. I do it because I'm driving the car and I don't envisage selling it on so can enjoy the best the car has to offer. If you have for example a standard B5 A4 quattro, a full bush set is worth more than the car at this point in life so no one is going to take this jump.
 
Would investing in a 3d printer and printing your own parts work?

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It might help someone but not me. It's pretty hard to go past the factory bushes, just have to rob a bank on the way.
 
RS6 C7 all the way :) 12l city driving in comfort, on the other hand, managed to get 31.8l too
 
RS6 C7 all the way :) 12l city driving in comfort, on the other hand, managed to get 31.8l too

Nice car, just getting too complex to maintain and repair in the home environment. That's an essential requirement for me that draws an absolute line in the sand. A passion for these things is a big part in staying healthy in body and mind.
 
18 months in and I can say that the RS6 has been a dream to own. Before putting it in the road I spent a few months sorting out the suspension and finding and fixing all the little things that had somehow been allowed to exist despite supposedly being given a lot of loving care. Since then it has been great, certainly hasn't lived up to the reputation of being a money pit. It has the usual issues with fitting accessories that all Audi have, difficult, more than normal though as trim fit is extremely tight. The difference in trim fit between the allroad and this is very noticeable even though the pieces are supposedly identical.

If your DNA doesn't insist that you must have the very latest dash and radio / navigation systems, the car is incredibly hard to fault as top level rapid transport.
 
awesome mate... I've just upgraded the 2009 S3 to a xtron satnav/radio and have given a much more modern face list to the car and looks like 'newish'.... I'm still working out the cabling (I think they sent me the wrong can connector), but apart form that, I've got waze, radio, Spotify, carplay etc working fine...

Looks like they do one from the RS6, not sure what year though..
Audi Android 10 Quad Core 7" Car GPS Multimedia Player with Built-in CarPlay, DSP (PSA70AA6) | Xtrons


I've also ordered (don't tell the missus) a Q3 heater controller which modernises the look of the car (from old red to modern white) interface, found on ebay for cheap...

Swapped out all the bulbs for LED..

Lastly, I took out the ashtray and put in a 'tray' that cost about $40 on ebay..

Overall, the dash now looks modern and has definitely lifted up the look of the car internally.

I'll also be painting the front and rear valance black (from grey), to match the window surrounds..

With all that, this is supposed to be a track car that somehow is getting looked after better than my S5! I've enjoyed the mods, but also really like having waze and spotify for those longer trips.

Ops, looks like this might have been a bit of a thread hijack!
 
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