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Replaced Steering Wheel - Paddles Not Shifting

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Tock

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Hey guys - I swapped over the stock flat S bottom leather steering wheel with black paddles. Wanting a fresh wheel and paddles, I puchased a direct swap wheel with extended shifters (the illuminated silver/black) - store advised would be compatible no issues and I can't find a similar issue. Wheel is one of these.

Swap out went fine after wrangling with airbag clips - new wheel is on, all wired up, airbag back on. I had assumed all was good - with battery connected, all the wheel buttons for phone/media/etc. working fine, illumination also working including the illumination to the paddle +/- symbols. BUT after taking it for a drive, the paddles do not shift gear up or down. Console gear shift works fine for tiptronic, paddles and wheel clearly have power/lights, but no up/down shift.

I assume there should be zero coding to be done? Unless there is a wheel harness/module difference that would need coding? Otherwise, what else could be wrong?

I was going to pull wheel off and check paddle wiring as well as try the old wheel again to confirm working, but I can only assume that if paddles are getting illumination to the +/- then the wiring should be fine. Thoughts?

EDIT: seller suggested VCDS scan and check for errors, otherwise they'll send me replacement paddles to swap out (painful but doable). Hopefully I can find someone with a cable nearby.
 
Maybe likely you will need to reset the fault code with a VCDS if you have access to one. Has happened to me in the past. The other thing could be wiring in the connector that connects to the clockspring. Only guessing!
 
No fault codes seen, no adaption available.
While monitoring the paddle +/- inputs with VCDS there is no signal being seen on depress - seems to suggest the paddles/wiring are faulty or something else wrong between multifunction button panel and panels. I have also taken wheel apart and re-wired paddles to be sure prior to scanning. Will have to try new paddles...
 
Likely that you’ll need to re wire the plug that clips to the airbag. I know that sounds strange but that’s what I had to do when I fitted a flat bottom wheel to my mrs a5. I’ll try and dig out the details and repost…
 
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This may shed some light on it, apologies if I’m way off but sounds exactly the same issue I had…

Did you go from square airbag to round airbag?
 
Thanks @guile - no it is same airbag, only change was the new wheel with new buttons and paddles. New wheel is not heated or wired for it and neither is the old. Looks like the multi function button panel is a different to my original - only difference I can find. I've taken both apart which is a bloody mission as the plastic trim is on tight.

Supplied:
paddles - 8WO 951 523 S
wheel buttons - 8W0 951 523 E

Original parts:
paddles - 8WO 951 523 J
wheel buttons - 8W0 951 523 F

EDIT: I suppose I could take both apart again and try swapping the paddles between them and some process of elimination. Just a pain in the .... and I don't want to damage the trims.
 
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no probs, I'd definitely go with your last suggestion as it sounds like you'll have to take them out again regardless...
 
Tock said:
No fault codes seen, no adaption available.
While monitoring the paddle +/- inputs with VCDS there is no signal being seen on depress - seems to suggest the paddles/wiring are faulty or something else wrong between multifunction button panel and panels. I have also taken wheel apart and re-wired paddles to be sure prior to scanning. Will have to try new paddles...
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It'd be worth comparing the wiring harness connectors of the original and replacement steering wheel to see if the pinouts are the same. You may need to relocate some wires in the connectors.
 
Update is that the seller believes the buttons provided in the wheel (8W0 951 523 E) are causing the issue between car and paddles - has sent me some replacements (8W0 951 523 F) which are on the way. We will find out - glad they are responsive and willing to send from Europe.

Alister said:
It'd be worth comparing the wiring harness connectors of the original and replacement steering wheel to see if the pinouts are the same. You may need to relocate some wires in the connectors.
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Yes I reckon this is probably the issue @Alister but hopefully the new buttons solve it for me so I don't need to re-pin.

That aside, loving the fresh leather and half perforation with the extended (useless :ROFLMAO:) paddles.

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Tock said:
Yes I reckon this is probably the issue @Alister but hopefully the new buttons solve it for me so I don't need to re-pin.

That aside, loving the fresh leather and half perforation with the extended (useless :ROFLMAO:) paddles.
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It's amazing the difference a fresh steering wheel makes to the car. Yours certainly looks the part too Tock.
 
nice one. Same one I have in my 2008 S5... I'm also looking for a similar one for my S3.. :)
 
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SOLVED - new buttons sorted it, assuming there is a change to pins or controller board with the different button sets.

8W0 951 523 F was the working buttons part for my 2018 S4.

I'm now pretty handy at taking these wheels apart, removing airbag, etc. :ROFLMAO:
 
Nice one... if you are like me, next time you have to remove it you'll have forgotten!

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